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台灣人的反思精神還不如受過教育的越南人!可悲!

發言人:doraemon, on Feb/10/2018    15:03:25 (IP code: X.X.101.164)
 Do the Vietnamese hate the Chinese?

https://www.quora.com/Do-the-Vietnamese-hate-the-Chinese

Ha-Anh (河英) Nguyen-Viet (阮钺), Native of Hanoi/U.S. educated/Chinese professionally trained

Answered Oct 14

This is a very sensitive issue, because as a Vietnamese, if you praise China, then the crazy crowd out there will call you a traitor. I can only speak for myself. I cannot even speak for my family, because this is one of the issues that really divide us.

I used to hate China a lot before I graduated from college in the U.S. and started working for a Taiwanese company with coworkers from Mainland, HK, and Taiwan. Like any other well-educated kids from Vietnam, we were raised to hate China. For many different reasons, I’ll explain below. Until I started spending almost 10 hours a day with these Mandarin and Cantonese speakers, then I realize holy shit there is nothing different between my people and these people. Not even language if you consider the fact that my Beijing coworkers can’t understand when Cantonese speakers talk to each other lol. Like hey guy, now you are no better than me.

Why do Vietnamese hate Chinese?

Inferiority complex: So this is the thing. It’s hard to compare a Vietnamese to a German, because we are too different from each other. Like you cannot compare Titanic to Airbus A380. That’s the difference. Vietnamese vs Japanese? Still a lot of difference. They are far away, language is totally different, faces are different, Japanese culture is just too distinct… However, with Chinese, every fcking thing is the same but Vietnamese are worse in every measure. Like too similar but how come those Chinese people are better than us in everything, even though we are exactly the same (if you compare Guangdong/Guangxi vs North Vietnam). Chinese are richer. Chinese workers are more hardworking. Chinese students outperform Vietnamese students in any UK or US universities, and the reason is not because the Chinese outnumber us. They maintain their cultures better when they stay overseas. Their community is stronger while overseas Vietnamese are famous for lacking unity. They are just better. And unlike what you can find in West vs East pop sociology/anthropology books, when you compare Vietnam vs China, there is no difference for you to form a hypothesis to explain. We are just not as aggressive and attentive as the Chinese. Vietnamese people are just more trivial. The competency, as a nation, is below China.

Vietnamese people are trivial and shallow and have a very short-term memory. They can only remember the border fighting in 1979, even though if you compare to 100 years under the French and 20 years with Americans bombing and killing us, those fighting with the Chinese is just nothing. However, like a low-performed student who grows bitter with his peers or like an unfortunate brother who is envious of his more successful brothers, Vietnamese people have a victim mentality. They always think that Chinese people want to invade them even though seriously I believe the Chinese do not care about Vietnam as a country, except for those who do business with the Vietnamese.

Slavery mentality. 100 years colonized by the French give them the very Eurocentric mentality that makes a lot of Vietnamese people think White people are superior to Yellow people lol. So they kinda think the Chinese are barbaric, compared to the French. Some stupid Vietnamese even think they were lucky to be colonized and are very proud of the Frenchy part of their culture. This later leads to anti-Confucianism, anti-Hanzi, and when you get too radical it turns out to be anti anything that relates to China.

This is the most important thing. History lessons were distorted. Vietnamese people are not aware that they all have Chinese blood and they were in fact the invaders. Modern Vietnamese people are not the indigenous people that live in Vietnamese territories, let’s say, 3000 or 2000 years ago. Long story short, people from Mainland China keep moving South for thousands of years, killing indigenous people and at the same time mixing bloods, language, cultures with the indigenous. The earliest reliable source of our written history was actually from China history. “Vietnam” was a part of “China” to begin with, then later rebelled and gained independence. But that does not sound so nationalistic so people keep making up new ancestors by accusing Han Chinese of destroying “Vietnamese indigenous culture.”

They do not understand even though they dig up some artifacts from their lands, it does not mean that culture actually belongs to them. The same story for a lot of monuments and artifacts in the Central and Southern regions that actually belong to Champa and Khmer people (which no Vietnamese ever denies). IT’S IN YOUR TERRITORY AT THE MOMENT BUT IT DOES NOT BELONG TO YOUR ANCESTORS. Vietnamese people do not understand that they are the ones who massacre and destroy indigenous people who are now “ethnic minorities.” They are just the offspring of Northern invaders.

Personally, I like Chinese people and Chinese culture (except for food because Northern Viet food is still the best for me). I adore their work ethics and diligence in everything that they do.

In general Chinese guys take good care of women around them, from girlfriends to friends to coworkers. I hope someday we can eliminate poverty like China has been doing. Also, the infrastructure too, especially transportation. I feel really envious of Chinese people when it comes to this. Oh yeah the entertainment industry too. I have been watching Chinese dramas since I can remember. I feel like Vietnamese can learn a lot from Chinese, and this is the easiest way to learn instead of reaching for Israel or Japan or anything from Europe as a role model… Because we are too similar.

如果把Vietnamese換成Taiwanese,真是毫無違和感。笑!
 

Record ID: 1518246205   From: 美國

回信 發言人:木杵, on Feb/10/2018    15:11:51 (IP code: X.X.63.44)
 對啊!

台灣人就是這樣,那又如何?

蠢貨支那人講一堆關我屁事

我還是打心眼裡厭惡支那人
 

Record ID: 1518246205R001   From: 台灣

回信 發言人:艾弓巧虧, on Feb/10/2018    15:12:40 (IP code: X.X.241.49)
 Taiwanese were raised to hate China?
猊是傻逼嗎?Taiwanese were raised to love China 好嗎.
中國人真是一天不說謊就會死。
 

Record ID: 1518246205R002   From: 美國

回信 發言人:木杵, on Feb/10/2018    15:14:02 (IP code: X.X.63.44)
 美國人喜歡台灣人

日本人喜歡台灣人

歐洲人喜歡台灣人






支那人滾邊去,沒人稀罕。
 

Record ID: 1518246205R003   From: 台灣

回信 發言人:支那國王, on Feb/10/2018    15:24:48 (IP code: X.X.123.40)
 You are just a stupid girl even you posted an English article with a stupid title.

 

Record ID: 1518246205R005   From: 台灣

回信 發言人:doraemon, on Feb/10/2018    15:31:54 (IP code: X.X.101.164)
 @木杵

我們中國人是多麼明敏,還能看不透台灣人心裡的那些小九九。

你就放心吧。中國有我們這樣洞察人性人心的明白人,是怎麼都不會翻船的。你就別指望中崩了。

 

Record ID: 1518246205R006   From: 美國

回信 發言人:木杵, on Feb/10/2018    15:41:03 (IP code: X.X.63.44)
 誰指望中崩?

自己在那臭美,支那會繼續在糞坑5000年

我由衷祝福你。
 

Record ID: 1518246205R007   From: 台灣

回信 發言人:doraemon, on Feb/10/2018    15:49:06 (IP code: X.X.101.164)
 @木杵

中國人有本事用現實證明你們是徹底loser。

台灣人這個群體,生於不義,必死於恥辱。
 

Record ID: 1518246205R008   From: 美國

回信 發言人:按讚啦, on Feb/10/2018    16:02:36 (IP code: X.X.222.144)
 為什麼國際社會使用「玻璃心」

來形容「中國心」 我不懂這個含意?
 

Record ID: 1518246205R009   From: 台灣

回信 發言人:木杵, on Feb/10/2018    16:15:52 (IP code: X.X.63.44)
 R08

支那人

台灣人不管如何都不用你來操心

請回支那認分做個支那人
 

Record ID: 1518246205R010   From: 台灣

回信 發言人:vvvv, on Feb/10/2018    16:42:22 (IP code: X.X.6.20)
 這麼愛台灣的健保就直說

別老是拐彎末角的

很令人厭惡!
 

Record ID: 1518246205R011   From: 台灣

回信 發言人:dds, on Feb/11/2018    05:10:56 (IP code: X.X.153.125)
 To White Europeans, PRC Chinese are little better than dirty Indians, cunning, corrupt and venal.

Singaporean, influenced by British culture, gets a different opinion.
 

Record ID: 1518246205R012   From: 美國

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